Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

05/11/2007 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY


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HB 217 TOURISM DISCLOSURES AND NOTICES
Moved CSHB 217(JUD) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= HB 90 CRIMES/CRIM PROCEDURE/SENTENCING
Moved SCS CSHB 90(JUD) Out of Committee
= HB 118 PROHIBIT ALLOWING MINORS TO HAVE ALCOHOL
Moved SCS CSHB 118(JUD) Out of Committee
        CSHB  90(FIN) - CRIMES/CRIM PROCEDURE/SENTENCING                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:47:31 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH announced  the consideration  of  CSHB 90(FIN).  He                                                               
said an SCS incorporates a number of other provisions.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI moved to adopt  SCS CSHB 90(JUD), version V.                                                               
There were no objections and it was adopted.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH explained  that sections 1-3 (of version  V) are the                                                               
elements of  HB 14.  The thrust  of the provisions  are to  put a                                                               
little  more  downward  pressure   on  those  who  commit  crimes                                                               
involving alcohol,  get on  probation and then  go back  into the                                                               
public. The idea  is to put a  mark on their I.D.s  to let liquor                                                               
store and  tavern owners know  this person is on  probation. It's                                                               
one more  brick in the  wall of  trying to keep  problem drinkers                                                               
away from law abiding citizens.  He asked if there were questions                                                               
about these provisions and noted there were none.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:49:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH  moved on to section  4 that he said  is a carryover                                                               
from  the original  bill. Section  5 comes  from SB  5 and  those                                                               
provisions relate  to the duty  to report  a crime that  is being                                                               
committed. It goes by the name  of "Kiva's Law" and is covered in                                                               
sections  5,  6, 7,  8,  and  9.  Sections  10-11 come  from  the                                                               
original HB 90. Sections 12-21  are from Senator Dyson who wanted                                                               
to  strengthen  laws  on prostitution  and  in  particular  child                                                               
prostitution. He saw no questions about those provisions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  continued  to  explain  that  sections  23-24  are  from  the                                                               
original HB  90. Section 25  goes back  to SB 157,  the promoting                                                               
prostitution  bill.  Section  26  is from  the  original  HB  90.                                                               
Section  27 is  from  SB 157.  Sections 28-29  come  from HB  90.                                                               
Sections 30-34  come from HB  14, the alcohol I.D.  bill. Section                                                               
35 is from HB 90.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH said  that section 36 relates to  the DNA provisions                                                               
that  are on  behalf of  Karen Foster  and many  of the  citizens                                                               
across  the state  who are  particularly interested  in them.  He                                                               
asked Mr. Svobodny  to comment on whether "arrested"  on page 20,                                                               
line 8, was a workable point at  which to ask the police or other                                                               
corrections individuals to  grab a DNA buchal  swab from suspects                                                               
and how would it work in Anchorage  as well as other parts of the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:52:49 PM                                                                                                                    
RICHARD  SVOBODNY, Deputy  Attorney  General, Criminal  Division,                                                               
Department  of Law  (DOL), answered  that Anchorage  is different                                                               
from  the rest  of the  state because  it has  24-hour committing                                                               
magistrates. So, if  someone is arrested there,  they are brought                                                               
before a  magistrate and bail  is set. Then they  are transferred                                                               
to jail where the booking process  takes place - where they would                                                               
be  finger  printed,  identified  by photograph  and  a  thorough                                                               
records check occurs. In Anchorage,  that is where a correctional                                                               
officer or other  officer who had brought the person  to the jail                                                               
would  take a  mouth  swab  from inside  the  person's cheek  and                                                               
appropriately identify, package and label it.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The   rest  of   the  state   doesn't  have   24-hour  committing                                                               
magistrates.  If someone  is  arrested for  an  offense they  are                                                               
brought to  the local jail  where that same process  happens, but                                                               
it's within 24  hours of the arrest that they  are brought before                                                               
a court.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said DPS  is concerned because the bill doesn't  cover all the                                                               
times  when a  juvenile might  be detained,  because they  may be                                                               
detained  by a  police officer  and released  to their  parent or                                                               
brought to some  kind of juvenile detention  facility. A majority                                                               
of  those cases  don't go  through the  formal court  process. He                                                               
clarified  that while  the language  in this  bill doesn't  cover                                                               
arrested juveniles,  but it  does cover  juveniles who  have been                                                               
adjudicated under certain circumstances.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said the DPS is concerned  both from a financial point of view                                                               
and an  evidence collection point  of view  in terms of  how that                                                               
would be done. With an arrest a whole system is in place.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI stated  that it is not his  intent that this                                                               
bill apply to minors.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:56:54 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR THERRIAULT joined the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR McGUIRE  referred to page 20,  line 8, and asked  if they                                                               
could insert language saying the person  who is arrested is not a                                                               
minor.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY replied  that it would make it clear,  but he didn't                                                               
think it was necessary. The  issue has legislative history and he                                                               
had told the DPS, given this  language, he would write an opinion                                                               
that it doesn't  include juveniles. The department  is just being                                                               
conservative and letting the legislature know their thoughts.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:58:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH noted that they  were discussing whether language on                                                               
lines 8-10 on page 20 included  minors and it seems that there is                                                               
universal acclamation  that it's  not intended to  include taking                                                               
buchal swabs from minors.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY clarified  "Not at the time of  arrest. Existing law                                                               
allows for it at certain times."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  said that sections  7, 38,  and 39 also  related to                                                               
DNA samples.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI pointed  out  that language  in section  39                                                               
changed from the earlier version.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
At ease from 1:59:03 PM to 2:03:27 PM.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said section  38  on  page  21 is  new  to                                                               
version V and was incorporated  through the drafting process. All                                                               
it does on line 14 is  changes (b)(1)(5) to (b)(1)(6). The change                                                               
is in  section 39 on  line 16  where "after the  department shall                                                               
make every  reasonable effort"  was added.  A number  of concerns                                                               
were  voiced  that the  90  days  requirement was  too  stringent                                                               
because you could  have a technician who is in  Barrow on a trial                                                               
or someone who  is sick for instance. It  potentially exposes the                                                               
state to liability  and so this provides a small  way out for the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH noted  there was  no discussion  on section  39. He                                                               
said  that  section 22  incorporates  the  kidnapping statute  of                                                               
limitations fix that was requested  by the Bonnie Craig folks. He                                                               
also  stated  that  they  had  been  working  very  closely  with                                                               
drafting folks  and the DOL to  make certain it was  cohesive and                                                               
consistent.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  McGUIRE added  that the  fiscal note  would reflect  the                                                               
position of a criminalist, as well.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  said he  had no objection  to that,  but he                                                               
haven't talked to DPS about it.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:06:04 PM                                                                                                                    
LAUREN  RICE, Legislative  Liaison, Department  of Public  Safety                                                               
(DPS) responded  that their new  fiscal note would have  four new                                                               
positions for the crime lab.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:06:36 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID   SHADE,   Director,   Division  of   Statewide   Services,                                                               
Department of Public Safety (DPS), said  he has added a full time                                                               
CODIS  (Combined   DNA  Index   System)  manager   position,  two                                                               
Criminalist  II technicians  and  a forensic  technician. So,  he                                                               
feels there  will be  enough tracking of  the samples  coming in.                                                               
The   samples  that   come  back   out  will   require  full-time                                                               
administration. The two criminalist  II technicians will actually                                                               
be  doing  the  analysis  and the  forensic  technician  will  be                                                               
physically receiving the  samples, making sure they  are ready to                                                               
go into  the laboratory information  system (LIM). He  would also                                                               
be responsible  for pulling those  samples out and  following the                                                               
court  order  to  destroy  them.   All  four  positions  will  be                                                               
reflected in their fiscal note.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  found no  further testimony  and closed  the public                                                               
hearing on HB 90.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked if new  money was being budgeted for the                                                               
positions  or  were  they otherwise  budgeted  into  the  process                                                               
somewhere.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHADE  answered  that  these   positions  are  not  budgeted                                                               
currently. They would need new funding.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   THERRIAULT  commented   that   before  the   conference                                                               
committee closes  out, they have  to make sure the  adjustment is                                                               
made to the fiscal note.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH said that was his responsibility.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  McGUIRE encouraged  Mr.  Shade to  use  the existing  $1                                                               
million grant to fund those positions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHADE  responded  that  of  the two  DNA  grants  they  have                                                               
currently one is  a DNA backlog reduction grant and  the other is                                                               
a capacity building grant. The  money for personal services would                                                               
allow  overtime for  overtime-eligible  employees,  but does  not                                                               
allow him to hire a new employee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR McGUIRE encouraged him to use that money for overtime.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:10:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI pointed  out that language on  page 22, line                                                               
16, has  a different effective  date for DNA  processing (section                                                               
39).  Testimony from  DPS indicated  that it  wasn't possible  to                                                               
have a  90-day effective  date because they  have to  hire people                                                               
and the  training takes six months.  The person then has  to work                                                               
under someone for another six months.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  responded that they  may as well  recognize reality                                                               
in their effective dates.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  McGUIRE moved  to report  SCS CSHB  90(JUD), version  V,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s). There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRENCH  noted that SCR 9  goes with the bill  to change the                                                               
title.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MCGUIRE  moved to adopt  SCR 9. There were  no objections                                                               
and it was so ordered.                                                                                                          

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